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jared kushner, apparently testified before a federal grand jury investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election. that's according to the "new york times," which says donald trump's son-in-law, kushner, was questioned about whether the former president was privately admitting the fact that he had lost while publicly claiming the lie that he won. let's get straight to "new york times" reporter maggie haberman, who broke the story. maggie, what kinds of questions were prosecutors asking jared kushner in front of this grand jury? >> so jake, the line of questioning of kushner, who went before the grand jury in june, a time when prosecutors for jack smith were really, really active in interviewing witnesses around trump's mindset, appeared to be trying to get at just that. they were trying to determine whether trump knowingly based his actions on a lie in claiming widespread fraud that impacted the outcome of the november 2020 election. now, as we understand it, kushner has insisted that it was his impression that trump genuinely believed the election was stolen, according to a person
jared kushner, apparently testified before a federal grand jury investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election. that's according to the "new york times," which says donald trump's son-in-law, kushner, was questioned about whether the former president was privately admitting the fact that he had lost while publicly claiming the lie that he won. let's get straight to "new york times" reporter maggie haberman, who broke the story. maggie, what kinds of questions were...
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jared kushner's impression isn't relevant. but his presence at a moment in which the truth was conveyed to his father-in-law is important. that's a building block that suggests intent and knowledge of the president that the election was stolen. both ivanka and jared acknowledged to us that they didn't see evidence of election fraud, that they credited and trusted bill barr, the campaign team, matt stepien and others, that they didn't find election fraud and a they acted in accord with that belief. jared went on at length about all the important things he needed to finish before january 20th because the election had been decided for president biden, including middle east peace. he had all this important vaccination deployment because he knew the administration was ending. their actions, their presence for those conversations are what's relevant. there are opinions about what the president did or didn't believe, don't matter, are not admissible in court. that's why it's important to us and to jack smith. >> this reminds me, andr
jared kushner's impression isn't relevant. but his presence at a moment in which the truth was conveyed to his father-in-law is important. that's a building block that suggests intent and knowledge of the president that the election was stolen. both ivanka and jared acknowledged to us that they didn't see evidence of election fraud, that they credited and trusted bill barr, the campaign team, matt stepien and others, that they didn't find election fraud and a they acted in accord with that...
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jared kushner has now testified before the grand jury in the january 6th investigation as well as hope hicks, the former white house communications director and trump whisperer. >>> plus, he's already shaking up the 2024 race, hoping to be a third party nominee. but democrats are growing worried tonight about cornell west and whether or not he could tip the election in donald trump's favor. he's here to respond. >>> and drug bust? the secret service has given up trying to find a suspect in the cocaine case that the white house has now closed. but questions still remain. i'm kaitlan collins, and this is "the source." >>> tonight, my sources have confirmed that jared kushner testified last month in the
jared kushner has now testified before the grand jury in the january 6th investigation as well as hope hicks, the former white house communications director and trump whisperer. >>> plus, he's already shaking up the 2024 race, hoping to be a third party nominee. but democrats are growing worried tonight about cornell west and whether or not he could tip the election in donald trump's favor. he's here to respond. >>> and drug bust? the secret service has given up trying to find...
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his son-in-law jared kushner now testifying before a federal grand jury. we're live here in vilnius, lithuania, and you're in "the situation room." ya know, if you were cashbacking you could earn on everything with just one card. chase freedom unlimited. so, if you're off the rackg... ...or crab cracking, you're cashbacking. cashbackn flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. nah, i'm working ony six pack. switch to a king suite- or book a silent retreat. silent retreat? hold up - yeeerp? i can't talk right now, i'm at a silent retreat. cashback on everything you buy with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? chase. make more of what's yours. >>> much more of my exclusive interview with defense secretary austin coming up here in "the situation room." we're also following breaking news in the united states on the federal grand jury investigation of 2020 election interference until the u.s. a source tell cnn that former president trump's son-in-law and former senior adviser jared kushner has testified. let's bring in cnn's
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i would jack smith bring jared kushner to the table? unless you already knew what jared is going to say, and ellie, of course can speak to that at greater length, but there is no way that jack smith brought jared in there to impeach, you know, the information, or the testimony that he has. that is just not how the grand jury system works. >> so, the reason you put jared kushner in the grand jury is to find out what he has to say. you can use the grand jury to explore, sometimes you take a witness who you know might be a problem for you, might give testimony favorable to the defendant, great, let me find that out now, let me know it is coming. but i think all of the sort of really highlights why this is a more difficult case when we get to intent than the documents case, right? documents case you can prove his intent by the fact that he had it, by his statements, his effort to obstruct, audiotapes of him talking about the information. it is a good example of why this is a trickier case, not impossible, but trickier case for prosecutors.
i would jack smith bring jared kushner to the table? unless you already knew what jared is going to say, and ellie, of course can speak to that at greater length, but there is no way that jack smith brought jared in there to impeach, you know, the information, or the testimony that he has. that is just not how the grand jury system works. >> so, the reason you put jared kushner in the grand jury is to find out what he has to say. you can use the grand jury to explore, sometimes you take a...
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we know jared kushner has always been close to the former president. also working with the campaign and hope hicks was one of the long time top advisers who notably disagreed with what donald trump was doing after the election. quite vocal about it and was unhappy with what happened on january 6. >> on the classified document investigation and how quickly they may or may not start the trial. there is new moves on this one as well. what are you learning in these new court filings? >> reporter: a lot of moving parts on this mar-a-lago documents case charged in florida and headed to trial. what we have now is the defense teams. they have a lot of the information that is not classified that would be evidence in this case they are allowed to be getting -- that just department confirmed that. they will start seeing the classified information in this case because lawyers for both trump and walt nauta have confirmed to the court they've taken the steps needed to be taken in order for them to get security clearances to have access to the classified materials he
we know jared kushner has always been close to the former president. also working with the campaign and hope hicks was one of the long time top advisers who notably disagreed with what donald trump was doing after the election. quite vocal about it and was unhappy with what happened on january 6. >> on the classified document investigation and how quickly they may or may not start the trial. there is new moves on this one as well. what are you learning in these new court filings? >>...
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i think it matters because jared kushner was obviously. there i was told back in mid-december of that time period that jared kushner was going with a ivanka trump and urging trump to concede the election. they never bought into the idea that it was stolen. that doesn't mean they spoke up. but going to him privately and urging him to concede. hope hicks is also notable. we know she spoke to the january 6th congressional committee. it's kind of interesting how much of a road map they have paved for a lot of this stuff. but she talked to them about urging trump to remain -- to tell people who came to washington for january 6th to remain peaceful in the days leading up to that day. so they both have kind of offered their perspectives of that to the january 6th committee. we don't fully know what they said to the grand jury that was hearing them when they went last month. we do know one line of questioning is whether trump privately acknowledged he had lost. >> you can't reveal what it was you were asked about or said. what kind of information
i think it matters because jared kushner was obviously. there i was told back in mid-december of that time period that jared kushner was going with a ivanka trump and urging trump to concede the election. they never bought into the idea that it was stolen. that doesn't mean they spoke up. but going to him privately and urging him to concede. hope hicks is also notable. we know she spoke to the january 6th congressional committee. it's kind of interesting how much of a road map they have paved...
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jared kushner, hope hicks. people that are very close to donald trump going in and testifying, just showing how far reaching this probe has gone, and that they're bringing these people not just in to talk to them, not just to look at their house testimony, but to bring them into the grand jury, but then on top of that, if you look at that, jared kushner, he was a person after the election who had -- he was involved in a lot of different things, right? he was talking to the campaign. he was in the white house, but hope hicks is actually a really interesting person because she wanted nothing to do what was happening by the time january 6th rolled around, and she was also very one-on-one with trump in hearing him say, we won the election. i don't care what else, and her response to him was, i don't see any fraud. no one sees any fraud. this is not what the facts are on the ground, and so her testimony would not necessarily be about all of these various tentacles that the investigation is looking at. >> right. >> h
jared kushner, hope hicks. people that are very close to donald trump going in and testifying, just showing how far reaching this probe has gone, and that they're bringing these people not just in to talk to them, not just to look at their house testimony, but to bring them into the grand jury, but then on top of that, if you look at that, jared kushner, he was a person after the election who had -- he was involved in a lot of different things, right? he was talking to the campaign. he was in...
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kushner, that were not so credible. >> so, joyce, jared kushner may or may not be credible, but he certainly seems to be very important to special counsel jack smith. why is he such a lynch pin to this potential prosecution? >> well, he could be important on a number of issues, melissa. for one thing, he was very involved in fundraising after the loss in the election, and if there are some indictment claims brewing about fraud in that process, he could be a very material witness there. but to christy's point, he's also a very interesting witness when it comes down to the president's state of mind, and of course i'll be a little bit legally nerdy with you -- under federal rule of evidence 704, witnesses can't offer their sense, their opinion on whether or not a defendant had a state of mind that's an element of the offense. but what kushner and other witnesses can testify to is what was the president told, who said it to them? what did the president say? and so the prosecution can elicit all of that evidence and they can argue to the jury what it means in closing argument. when you have a num
kushner, that were not so credible. >> so, joyce, jared kushner may or may not be credible, but he certainly seems to be very important to special counsel jack smith. why is he such a lynch pin to this potential prosecution? >> well, he could be important on a number of issues, melissa. for one thing, he was very involved in fundraising after the loss in the election, and if there are some indictment claims brewing about fraud in that process, he could be a very material witness...
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jared kushner upcoming before the grand jury, hope hicks before the grand jury, alyssa farah griffin before federal prosecutors, and we will get to all of it. but at the center of it, three major questions that perhaps reveal what the special counsel is up to. now, a warning to our viewers, these might seem insultingly obvious or simple, but they are legally pivotal. number one, did donald trump know he lost the election? number two, did donald trump say he lost the election? number three, how on earth could he have not have known he lost the election and are you actually serious this could be a viable defense? this is at the forefront of tonight as cnn has confirmed that the president's son-in-law testified before the grand jury investigating donald trump's actions around january 6th. at the new york times reports that he was asked, jared kushner was asked, if he ever heard trump acknowledge heost the election. the times that kushner has maintained that it was his impression that mr. trump truly believed the election was stolen, according to a person briefed on the matter. however,
jared kushner upcoming before the grand jury, hope hicks before the grand jury, alyssa farah griffin before federal prosecutors, and we will get to all of it. but at the center of it, three major questions that perhaps reveal what the special counsel is up to. now, a warning to our viewers, these might seem insultingly obvious or simple, but they are legally pivotal. number one, did donald trump know he lost the election? number two, did donald trump say he lost the election? number three, how...
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jared kushner, and i want to read from here, get you to elaborate, mr. kushner did testify before the grand jury at the federal courthouse in washington last month, where he is said to have maintained it was his impression mr. trump truly believe the election was stolen, according to a person briefed on the matter. what do you make of that? >> what i make of that is that if you are the prosecutor you want to know what everyone would say if this were to go to trial. you would certainly want to know what the people closest to trump would say, because you wouldn't want there to be any surprises. you wouldn't want jared kushner to say well, actually, something that is very surprising that could up and what you know. so you want to have all the facts before you go forward because someone like jared kushner could be called by the defendant, donald trump, to testify. so while kushner's testimony, based on a reporting, does not get the prosecutors there on the question of intent, the question of whether he acknowledged that he lost. it's important for them to kn
jared kushner, and i want to read from here, get you to elaborate, mr. kushner did testify before the grand jury at the federal courthouse in washington last month, where he is said to have maintained it was his impression mr. trump truly believe the election was stolen, according to a person briefed on the matter. what do you make of that? >> what i make of that is that if you are the prosecutor you want to know what everyone would say if this were to go to trial. you would certainly...
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which is obviously jared kushner aunt hope hicks. possibly two of the closest people to donald trump during his time in the white house. and certainly during this time period. we know they both went and testified before the grand jury. hearing the testimony in this testimony to overturn the election but not just trump at his allies. i think it matters because jared kushner was obviously there. i was told back in mid december of that time period that jared kushner was going with ivanka trump. and urging trump to conceding the election. they never bought into the idea that it was stolen. that doesn't mean that they spoke up going to him privately and urging him to concede. hope hicks is also notable. we know that she spoke to the january 6th congressional committee. it's interesting how much of a roadmap they have paved for a lot of the south. but she talked to them about urging trump to tell people who came to washington for january 6th to remain peaceful. in the days leading up to that day. they both have kind of offer their perspect
which is obviously jared kushner aunt hope hicks. possibly two of the closest people to donald trump during his time in the white house. and certainly during this time period. we know they both went and testified before the grand jury. hearing the testimony in this testimony to overturn the election but not just trump at his allies. i think it matters because jared kushner was obviously there. i was told back in mid december of that time period that jared kushner was going with ivanka trump....
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kushner, unlike a lot of other people, jared kushner was central to the operation. he is reportedly told investigators that he was under the impression that donald trump felt that he had won the election. is that relevant? is jared kushner's impression relevant or distract smith need evidence? smith>> both. jack smith definitely needs evidence, but this can certainly serve as a piece to it. look, jared kushner wasn't donald trump's inner circle during the time leading up to january 6th and in the time after, and so in that, whatever conversations that were had as our pointed out, or other evidence that can go to whether or not donald trump actually knew that he lost the election or was really under some sort of from delusion would be important. i think it is also important to note that jared kushner himself has reportedly said that he knew that donald trump had lost the election. i think that if it is clear that the people around donald trump knew that he lost and made that clear, then it makes it even harder for donald trump to claim that he wasn't aware that he di
kushner, unlike a lot of other people, jared kushner was central to the operation. he is reportedly told investigators that he was under the impression that donald trump felt that he had won the election. is that relevant? is jared kushner's impression relevant or distract smith need evidence? smith>> both. jack smith definitely needs evidence, but this can certainly serve as a piece to it. look, jared kushner wasn't donald trump's inner circle during the time leading up to january 6th...
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because if jared kushner truly believe that trump believe the election was stolen, then jared kushner is living on different planet than the rest of us are. but he of his is lying about that, there's trouble there to. >> i don't think that jack smith gives a squat what jared kushner's impressions are. he is concerned with the facts. and the facts are that trump knew that, alyssa griffin the white house communications director said that trump told her days after the election, can you believe i lost to joe biden. the joint chief of staff, mark milley, he told him the same thing in december that he lost. trump people filed 60 lawsuits claiming fraud in the election, they lost all 60 times. there is audio of steve bannon before the election saying that trump was going to say he won even if he didn't. again -- said that before the election. ali, regardless of what kushner, the impression was, all of the evidence suggests that trump knew that he lost,. but he didn't care. as he was concerned, losing the election didn't mean that he still couldn't be president, and that is exactly what jack
because if jared kushner truly believe that trump believe the election was stolen, then jared kushner is living on different planet than the rest of us are. but he of his is lying about that, there's trouble there to. >> i don't think that jack smith gives a squat what jared kushner's impressions are. he is concerned with the facts. and the facts are that trump knew that, alyssa griffin the white house communications director said that trump told her days after the election, can you...
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jared kushner and hope hicks spoke under oath. hicks was asked whether trump was told he lost the election. whether trump privately acknowledged he lost the election in the days after it happened. evan perez is out front, and evan, these are two significant players in trump's orbit, his son-in-law by his side, hope hicks one of his most loyal lieutenants throughout his administration. both now speaking under oath to the federal grand jury. what more are you learning? >> these testimonies according to sources who spoke to kaitlan collins and katelyn polantz happened in june, which is around the time line of what we are seeing. a lot of the activity from the special counsel's office, and that question, of course, the question of whether trump really knew or acknowledged that he had lost the election is actually a very important one, and one of the smartest things that the former president has done over the last couple of years since he did, dooindeed lose the elecn and left the white house. one of the smartest things he has done is
jared kushner and hope hicks spoke under oath. hicks was asked whether trump was told he lost the election. whether trump privately acknowledged he lost the election in the days after it happened. evan perez is out front, and evan, these are two significant players in trump's orbit, his son-in-law by his side, hope hicks one of his most loyal lieutenants throughout his administration. both now speaking under oath to the federal grand jury. what more are you learning? >> these testimonies...
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jared kushner was not the only one of trump's closest advisers, but as msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin reminded me, other than trump adviser jason miller, no one was more involved in the post election fund-raising efforts pushing the big lie that jared. that could also mean the campaign finance angle of the investigation is also very much alive. it's the latest sign of a potential third indictment for the twice- impeached, twice-indicted former president and the second coming from special counsel jack smith. while smith has already brought charges against trump for his mishandling of classified documents, as we see he has also been hard at work on this other investigation. from what we've been able to learn it goes well beyond just the events of january 6th including everything in the months leading up to the attack on the u.s. capitol. in particular, we're learning more about the special counsel's investigation into how trump and his allies tried to pressure state officials to help overturn their state's election results, as well as forming the so-called alternate slates of electors i
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which is jared kushner and hope hicks. probably two of the closest people to donald trump during his time in the white house. we know that they both went and testified before the grand jury into the efforts to overturn the election by trump and his allies. and i think that it matters because jared kushner was obviously there -- i was told back in mid-december of that time period that jared kushner was going with ivanka trump and urging trump to concede the election. they never bought into the idea that it was stolen. doesn't mean they spoke up, but privately urging him to concede. and hope hick, we know she spoke to the january 6 congressional committee. it is kind of interesting how much of a roadmap they have paved for a lot of this stuff. but she talked to them about urging trump to tell people who came to washington for january 6 to remain peaceful in the days leading up to that day. so they both have offered their perspectives of that to the january 6 committee. we don't fully know what they said to the grand jury tha
which is jared kushner and hope hicks. probably two of the closest people to donald trump during his time in the white house. we know that they both went and testified before the grand jury into the efforts to overturn the election by trump and his allies. and i think that it matters because jared kushner was obviously there -- i was told back in mid-december of that time period that jared kushner was going with ivanka trump and urging trump to concede the election. they never bought into the...
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who is going to please jared kushner? think about how many people told trump he had lost the election. his own attorney general. all the reputable lawyers in the department of justice. all the reputable lawyers in the white house. who's cybersecurity chief. his campaign manager. the two companies that he hired to check to see if there was any fraud in the election -- >> and every judge that saw the case! >> right. exactly! so, we have kind of misplaced this discussion somehow in the tv sphere. somehow we have to know exactly what was in trump's head or whether or not he saw, in arizona, this with that. no. he knew those electors were a fake slate of electors. he knew that pence didn't have the authority to do that. he knew it was wrong and unlawful to send armed people to the capital to storm it, knock through windows, and ultimately resulted in the death of five people. that is what is important. jennifer has made a very important point. i stand with. her >> thank you to both of you. cynthia ochsner the former federal pr
who is going to please jared kushner? think about how many people told trump he had lost the election. his own attorney general. all the reputable lawyers in the department of justice. all the reputable lawyers in the white house. who's cybersecurity chief. his campaign manager. the two companies that he hired to check to see if there was any fraud in the election -- >> and every judge that saw the case! >> right. exactly! so, we have kind of misplaced this discussion somehow in the...
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mike pence, mark meadows, pat cipollone, jared kushner. >> that's right. some of these people will have varying accounts. you see jared kushner said that donald trump told her that he felt like he lost the election, getting into donald trump's mind set at that time is incredibly difficult. did he really believe there was widespread sffraud, or was that something he wanted to make up to cover for the fact that he really knew and really did lose the election. >> everybody, standby. up next is david chalian's favorite segment. it is six months until the iowa caucuses and the gop herd has gathered with one predictable absence. we're live in des moines, next. . new pronamel active shield actively shieldsds the enamel to defend against erosion and cavitities. i think that this prproduct is a gamechanger for my p patients- it really works. but his vision dimmed with age. he had amd. i didn't know it then, but it can progress to ga, an advanced form of the disease. his struggle with vision loss from amd made me want to help you see warning signs of ga. like straig
mike pence, mark meadows, pat cipollone, jared kushner. >> that's right. some of these people will have varying accounts. you see jared kushner said that donald trump told her that he felt like he lost the election, getting into donald trump's mind set at that time is incredibly difficult. did he really believe there was widespread sffraud, or was that something he wanted to make up to cover for the fact that he really knew and really did lose the election. >> everybody, standby. up...
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his family, jared kushner has now cuts to five before the grand jury. and the january six investigation, as well as help kids. former white house communications director, and trump whisper. plus, he's already shaking up the 2020 world race, hoping to be a third party nominee. the democrats are growing worry tonight, about cornell west. and whether he can tip the election and donald trump's favor. he's here to respond. and drug bust. secret surface has given up trying to find a suspect in the cocaine case, at the white house it's now closed. the questions still remain. i'm kaitlan collins, this is the source. tonight, my sources have confirmed, jared kushner testified last month in a special counsel january six probe. question before a greater federal grand, jury investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election. by donald trump, in his allies. kushner of course is trump's son-in-law and was trump's senior adviser, in the white house. according to one source, grand jury is asking whether or not trump had been told he lost the election. back in 2020, an
his family, jared kushner has now cuts to five before the grand jury. and the january six investigation, as well as help kids. former white house communications director, and trump whisper. plus, he's already shaking up the 2020 world race, hoping to be a third party nominee. the democrats are growing worry tonight, about cornell west. and whether he can tip the election and donald trump's favor. he's here to respond. and drug bust. secret surface has given up trying to find a suspect in the...
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jared kushner doesn't know what jack smith knows, that's a precarious prison. if you're a donald trump, and the only -- people who do that have no scruples, they have no morals. that also means they have no loyalty. they are not going to go to jail for donald trump. i guarantee you they're not loyal people, they're all about self-interest. they will always choose self-interest over donald trump. if i'm donald trump, i'm very nervous if the only thing between you and jail is rudy giuliani. >> what's the saying, if you lie do you think with dogs, you get up with fleas. thank you both for getting us started. i appreciate you guys. >> thank you. >>> coming up, hollywood is grind to go a halt as the actors join the writers in going on strike. the one and only richard kind will join us. >>> and how ron desantis is trying to, quote, reset his flailing campaign. >>> and why there may be a third indictment coming in the classified documents probe. all of that and more when we're back in just 60 seconds. n just . . i'm an older student. i'm getting my doctorate in clinic
jared kushner doesn't know what jack smith knows, that's a precarious prison. if you're a donald trump, and the only -- people who do that have no scruples, they have no morals. that also means they have no loyalty. they are not going to go to jail for donald trump. i guarantee you they're not loyal people, they're all about self-interest. they will always choose self-interest over donald trump. if i'm donald trump, i'm very nervous if the only thing between you and jail is rudy giuliani....
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trump's very own son-in-law, jared kushner. sources say some of the questions federal prosecutors asked kushner were about whether trump was told he lost the election. several key trump white house officials from low level aides to former vice president mike pence have testified before the grand jury already. >> former trump white house aide hope hicks also testified early last month. any possible indictments from the probe will likely rely at least partly on what these individuals have said under oath and behind closed doors. let's get to kaitlyn polantz with more. what are we learning about this testimony? >> it didn't take place that long ago which is notable because this investigation has been going on for some time, and there have been a lot of witnesses and then they bring jared kushner and hope hicks into the grand jury in june. two people who told their stories already under oath to the house select committee, and so their testimony and what they would say was already out there. now the prosecutors are replicating it, a
trump's very own son-in-law, jared kushner. sources say some of the questions federal prosecutors asked kushner were about whether trump was told he lost the election. several key trump white house officials from low level aides to former vice president mike pence have testified before the grand jury already. >> former trump white house aide hope hicks also testified early last month. any possible indictments from the probe will likely rely at least partly on what these individuals have...
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as jack smith does these interviews and he asks people like jared kushner what was the president thinking, he doesn't have to prove that the president absolutely knew he had lost and he has evidence that the president said to 15 people, i know i lost, and all of this other things happened. that is not the corrupt intent that is required. the intent is that he knew the intent is that he knew what he was doing was illegal when he set up a fake electors scandal. he knew what he was doing was illegal when he sent armed people up to the capitol to interrupt the official proceeding of the counting of the votes. he knew pence didn't have the power when he tried to pressure him into overturning the election. that is the intent that he has to prove. and to the extent he can prove that trump was telling people that he lost the election, okay, great. that's icing on the cake. but let's not require jack smith or leave our viewers with the belief that jack smith has to prove more than he already has to prove. because, remember -- and then i will be quiet for a second -- we already know that the attorn
as jack smith does these interviews and he asks people like jared kushner what was the president thinking, he doesn't have to prove that the president absolutely knew he had lost and he has evidence that the president said to 15 people, i know i lost, and all of this other things happened. that is not the corrupt intent that is required. the intent is that he knew the intent is that he knew what he was doing was illegal when he set up a fake electors scandal. he knew what he was doing was...
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the election, jared kushner tried to cut his losses. he left his role as a senior adviser in the white house, and into that leadership vacuum you had a cast of characters. you had rudy giuliani, sydney powell, the my pillow guy. this cast of conspiratorial characters, in the oval office, and who, according to the testimony and evidence. helped to fuel this conspiracy that led to donald trump's right to overturn the election and everything that transpired on january 6th. >> but jeff can we remind our audience. jared kushner didn't leave because she was sick of what was happening. he went to the middle east. he went to the middle east as bidar treasury secretary, steve mission. so the two of them could independently raise money for their investment funds after they left the white house. it wasn't like he wrote off on a white horse to do the right thing. he tried to enrich himself while he still had the white house pill. >> that's right. i will not dispute that point at all. i was just making the point that when he left, into the leadershi
the election, jared kushner tried to cut his losses. he left his role as a senior adviser in the white house, and into that leadership vacuum you had a cast of characters. you had rudy giuliani, sydney powell, the my pillow guy. this cast of conspiratorial characters, in the oval office, and who, according to the testimony and evidence. helped to fuel this conspiracy that led to donald trump's right to overturn the election and everything that transpired on january 6th. >> but jeff can we...
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new reports suggest key trump aides -- and jared kushner both testified last month to a federal grand jury. investigating efforts to overturn the election. then on capitol hill, a showdown set for the senate next week as it takes up a must pass defense bill, after the house passed it with controversial amendments. republican majority in fact voting to add measures restricting pentagon policies on abortion access, transgender health care and diversity programs. earlier today, democratic ranking member of the house on services committee adam smith told msnbc how this could hurt the military. >> the bill that they passed will make it less likely and more difficult for women to serve in the military, for trans people to serve in the military. you know also make it less likely that people of color get an adequate chance within the military because it will not address those issues. >> ottawa governor kim reynolds -- mouse or burtons after six weeks. it takes effect in iowa this weekend, but a judge could the side to block it as soon as monday. governor reynolds explains the importance of th
new reports suggest key trump aides -- and jared kushner both testified last month to a federal grand jury. investigating efforts to overturn the election. then on capitol hill, a showdown set for the senate next week as it takes up a must pass defense bill, after the house passed it with controversial amendments. republican majority in fact voting to add measures restricting pentagon policies on abortion access, transgender health care and diversity programs. earlier today, democratic ranking...
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kushner may have said the opposite and there's good strategy reasons for the prosecution to call jared kushner into the grand jury to tell that story even if it doesn't actually support the prosecution. it can draw the sting. it can help them to anticipate what the defenses will be. so there are other reasons we don't actually know what he'll testify to, but according to reporting he testified, no, in fact, the president thought he had legitimately won. i still think if there are witnesses who will tell that, ultimately it'll not prevail as i said it's a naro case and doesn't require proof whether the election was or was not stolen. but also there's enough people telling him there was no proof it was. so that's more of an insanity plea than it is actually a good faith defense in my view and the view of my coauthors. >> you know what, david, it reminds me of the bedminster tape that prosecution did not charge trump on. they did not charge him on dissemination. but just having the tape of trump acknowledging the classified information was not his to divulge and potentially waving around
kushner may have said the opposite and there's good strategy reasons for the prosecution to call jared kushner into the grand jury to tell that story even if it doesn't actually support the prosecution. it can draw the sting. it can help them to anticipate what the defenses will be. so there are other reasons we don't actually know what he'll testify to, but according to reporting he testified, no, in fact, the president thought he had legitimately won. i still think if there are witnesses who...
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he brought in jared kushner and hope hix. they are not people involved in planning january 6th, the fake electors and what that was going to look like, but they are people who can offer insight into trump's mind set that very few can do so. so hope hix, i had a conversation with a source last week who said the idea they brought in hope hix in june, not even that long ago, what does that tell you. they said it's very clear they are looking at trump himself in a way they did not know previously. i think this caught the team off guard. it's not a surprise. we knew this investigation was coming and this was underway and charges were likely, but the fact that trump has gotten a target letter and so far out of everyone we have spoken to, no one else we know of has gotten a target letter. maybe they are not telling us. maybe they will get one in the days to come. it's shocking to the legal team. >> there's a questioning of who may be cooperating. we know rudy giuliani met with the special counsel for two days. mark meadows has been
he brought in jared kushner and hope hix. they are not people involved in planning january 6th, the fake electors and what that was going to look like, but they are people who can offer insight into trump's mind set that very few can do so. so hope hix, i had a conversation with a source last week who said the idea they brought in hope hix in june, not even that long ago, what does that tell you. they said it's very clear they are looking at trump himself in a way they did not know previously....
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. >> and in addition to that, donald trump's son-in-law, jared kushner, also testified before the grand jury investigating all this, apparently. this is his inner circle. is this a case that we could see charges in the case soon? and i guess, you know, on the flip side of this, i mean, it does look as though, if he's talking to secretaries of state, if he's talking to people like jared kushner and hope hicks, i mean, that's still a pretty wide net that they're casting at this stage of the investigation. mike, that also suggests that we're not that close. i hate to ask both sides of the coin here, but couldn't it also suggest that they're not that close? >> so i actually think that hope hicks and jared kushner interviews, jim, those were the lock-out interviews were trump. we saw at the january 6th committee there was some from trump's inner circle that they told him he actually lost. they told him there was no overturn in the election. there was no legal path forward, that sort of thing. that's what i think those interviews were there for so this way essentially smith has them locked in
. >> and in addition to that, donald trump's son-in-law, jared kushner, also testified before the grand jury investigating all this, apparently. this is his inner circle. is this a case that we could see charges in the case soon? and i guess, you know, on the flip side of this, i mean, it does look as though, if he's talking to secretaries of state, if he's talking to people like jared kushner and hope hicks, i mean, that's still a pretty wide net that they're casting at this stage of the...
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we know that jared kushner has testified whether the president had corrupt intent, whether he knew he was lying around his claims that the election was stolen. other people have testified who are members of the inner circle and the trump administration. how much does it matter that the prosecutors can show he had corrupted intent? >> as we analyzed and the prosecution memo, if the prosecutor brings a narrow charge, in some ways it matters not at all. if the prosecution can show that mr. trump was aware for example that the slate of electoral significance that was submitted to congress was false, that could be enough in and of itself. if he knew that there was no legal -- whatsoever to put pressure on vice president pence, to overturn the will of the voters, that could be enough in and of itself. if he willfully incited this crowds to an insurrection, that could be enough. so that is kind of the narrow case. but as a matter of jury appeal, as a matter of telling a narrative, it of course would be helpful to be able to tell the jury, to persuade the jury, that mr. trump at the time knew
we know that jared kushner has testified whether the president had corrupt intent, whether he knew he was lying around his claims that the election was stolen. other people have testified who are members of the inner circle and the trump administration. how much does it matter that the prosecutors can show he had corrupted intent? >> as we analyzed and the prosecution memo, if the prosecutor brings a narrow charge, in some ways it matters not at all. if the prosecution can show that mr....
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they asked jared kushner and other witnesses as well. there is indication that people heard him say in the days after the election an acknowledgement he knew he lost. we heard alyssa farah griffin say that she heard him say, you can believe i lost to this guy? kushner has not indicated his father-in-law knew he had lost. apparently his testimony to the prosecutors is that he thinks his father-in-law believes some of the things he was saying. there's indication he had reason not to. he was told time and time again by people in his own campaign, in his own orbit, his own government that what he was saying was not true. they hired agencies to investigate the fraud claims. the agencies hired by the trump campaign said, no, nothing there, along the lines you are talking about. >> ken, barbara, peter, as always, thanks to all of you. >>> a new world health organization report, warning of potential not so sweet risks associated with aspartame. yesterday, the w.h.o. classified it as a possible carcinogen but said the move was based on limited ev
they asked jared kushner and other witnesses as well. there is indication that people heard him say in the days after the election an acknowledgement he knew he lost. we heard alyssa farah griffin say that she heard him say, you can believe i lost to this guy? kushner has not indicated his father-in-law knew he had lost. apparently his testimony to the prosecutors is that he thinks his father-in-law believes some of the things he was saying. there's indication he had reason not to. he was told...
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jared kushner, member of the trump family profiting off of their access of -- sometimes there is a code conduct for supreme court justices and throw in presidential family members. sons and daughters of sitting presidents, should they have their own code of conduct? should congress try to address this? >> it's an interesting question that i haven't engaged in before. we have been engaging to try to get the supreme court to adopt a code of ethics as you reference. they are the only member of the entire federal judiciary not covered by a code of ethics. members of congress have to fully disclose their asset, their stock holdings, their dealings, and -- >> should presidential family members perhaps come under additional scrutiny. >> that may be worth looking at because, frankly, as you referenced, jared kushner wasn't just a private citizen. he worked in the white house. >> if you are outraged by hunter biden, you should be outraged by jared kushner. you can't pick and choose. congressman dean phillips from minnesota is openly out there saying he thinks there should be a contest. he thinks
jared kushner, member of the trump family profiting off of their access of -- sometimes there is a code conduct for supreme court justices and throw in presidential family members. sons and daughters of sitting presidents, should they have their own code of conduct? should congress try to address this? >> it's an interesting question that i haven't engaged in before. we have been engaging to try to get the supreme court to adopt a code of ethics as you reference. they are the only member...
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investigators have questioned aides, including jared kushner, all of them close to former president trump, to establish his state of mind, whether he knew he lost the election, but still took part in efforts to illegally overturn the election anyway, so tonight if the former president himself suggests an arrest and indictment is coming, how soon could this all play out? abc's chief washington correspondent jonathan karl leading us off tonight. >> reporter: donald trump is now on the verge of indictment on the most serious allegations he, or any other american president, has ever faced, that he illegally tried to cling to power after losing the 2020 presidential election. special counsel jack smith notified the former president late sunday that he is the target of the wide-ranging investigation into the events leading up to the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol. trump himself revealed the news today in a statement, saying he had received a letter from prosecutors "stating that i am a target of the january 6th grand jury investigation, which almost always means an arrest and indictment
investigators have questioned aides, including jared kushner, all of them close to former president trump, to establish his state of mind, whether he knew he lost the election, but still took part in efforts to illegally overturn the election anyway, so tonight if the former president himself suggests an arrest and indictment is coming, how soon could this all play out? abc's chief washington correspondent jonathan karl leading us off tonight. >> reporter: donald trump is now on the verge...
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we learned this week that trump's son-in-law, jared kushner recently testified before a federal grand jury in that case. according to the new york times, kushner another close aides were asked whether trump privately acknowledge that he lost the 2020 election. in lawyer speak it suggest they are trying to show corrupt intent. that trump's efforts were knowingly based on a lie because he already knew he lost. few people are as familiar with trump's scheme to overturn the election is congressman jamie raskin. he was in the capitol on january 6th led the impeachment trial, and was part of a congressional investigation into the attack. i sat down with him at his home this week to discuss this case and all of the legal troubles facing the former president. >> i want to start with the special counsel's investigation into january 6th, because there was some news this week. the new york times was reporting the prosecutors have questioned multiple witnesses in these weeks, including jared kushner. what does that indicate to you about where they are in the investigation, and what charges it may
we learned this week that trump's son-in-law, jared kushner recently testified before a federal grand jury in that case. according to the new york times, kushner another close aides were asked whether trump privately acknowledge that he lost the 2020 election. in lawyer speak it suggest they are trying to show corrupt intent. that trump's efforts were knowingly based on a lie because he already knew he lost. few people are as familiar with trump's scheme to overturn the election is congressman...
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so, just because jared kushner has gone to the grand jury and, after he collected his two billion dollars -- the saudis and said, no, i thought he really won. that doesn't a, make it credible, or b, make -- smart gradually process. >> and so -- i want to pick up on that point that cynthia raises, what do you think the secretaries of states are saying to jack smith, and we'll be telling jack smith in that vein. >> i think that they can share with jack smith what was happening in their states, what was happening with elections officials and election workers. they can share the impact of this false narrative on their state and their ability to both count their votes and to have their electors seated. so i think there's a lot to be shared. it's interesting that jack smith was talking to a number of secretaries of state and also other election officials. and i really think they sort of crossing the tees and dotting the eyes to make sure that he has everything that he needs and, i think, as we cynthia said, it's not a question of proving that trump, in his mind, knew everything that would take
so, just because jared kushner has gone to the grand jury and, after he collected his two billion dollars -- the saudis and said, no, i thought he really won. that doesn't a, make it credible, or b, make -- smart gradually process. >> and so -- i want to pick up on that point that cynthia raises, what do you think the secretaries of states are saying to jack smith, and we'll be telling jack smith in that vein. >> i think that they can share with jack smith what was happening in...
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they talked to jared kushner, hope hicks, looked at that. we will see what jack smith has. he had a lot in the indictments of the documents investigation than we knew previously wuchlt he will see if that is the same if we get charges on january 6th. >> there was so many complaints over the course of the first couple of years post-trump, post-january 6th of where is the justice department? where are the prosecutions? where is everything right now? and it seems like in the last couple of weeks boom, boom, boom, particularly the last couple of days on this issue. how do you think that resonates in terms of people? >> look, i think that on our side of the aisle there is a two-tiered justice system and trump is benefiting from it. imagine if ilhan omar gave a speech and rallied 10,000 muslims to a joint session of congress? she would have been in jail in three minutes. imagine if barack obama got black lives matter to attack a joint session of congress. he would be in guantanamo right now. you talk about two different realities. the republicans say they are being too hard on ou
they talked to jared kushner, hope hicks, looked at that. we will see what jack smith has. he had a lot in the indictments of the documents investigation than we knew previously wuchlt he will see if that is the same if we get charges on january 6th. >> there was so many complaints over the course of the first couple of years post-trump, post-january 6th of where is the justice department? where are the prosecutions? where is everything right now? and it seems like in the last couple of...
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he's not part of the inner workings of the white house at any time in the same way that jared kushner or ivanka trump were. when you look at even just the financial resources that the trump family has been the beneficiary of from questionable sources and questions about how they arranged those financial dealings, it completely dwarves anything compared to hunter biden. so the fact that they're willing to look the other way while donald trump's family has done that which they are accusing hunter biden of doing just tells everyone that there's really no substance there, that it's just political theater, that it's a 2024 mechanism, just as kevin mccarthy once said that the benghazi investigation was designed to take down hillary clinton's presidential cam pane, this is the same thing they're trying to do with hunter biden in trying to take down joe biden. it's kind of wash, rinse, repeat the republican playbook. i think it also kind of illustrates the fact that their policies, their extreme agenda, their crusade for taking away women's rights, it's so unpopular that they want to spend ev
he's not part of the inner workings of the white house at any time in the same way that jared kushner or ivanka trump were. when you look at even just the financial resources that the trump family has been the beneficiary of from questionable sources and questions about how they arranged those financial dealings, it completely dwarves anything compared to hunter biden. so the fact that they're willing to look the other way while donald trump's family has done that which they are accusing hunter...